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Wosbald wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 09:52 +JMJ+

So what element(s), if any, of my original post do you dispute as being incorporated/interwoven?
  • Doctrine.
  • Morals.
  • Social Teaching.
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Everything is "interwoven."

I dispute how the Jesuits pull at the threads, choosing minor threads to be "non-negotiable" while ignoring the burning holes in the fabric.

Open border migration is unjust and unmerciful.

Mass deportation of illegal aliens is less merciful than I would like, but at least is seeks to restore justice.

Meanwhile, Democrat policies are pagan brutalities that Christians must fight against. And Democrats mean to fight us to the death. Do you recall that they surveilled Latin Mass Catholics as potential domestic terrorists? SWAT raids on pro-life sidewalk counsellors?

As much as gay Jesuits want us to support their LGBT Democrats, we cannot ally with enemies who seek to destroy us.
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Del wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 10:30
Wosbald wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 09:52 So what element(s), if any, of my original post do you dispute as being incorporated/interwoven?
  • Doctrine.
  • Morals.
  • Social Teaching.
:think:
Everything is "interwoven."

[…]
So, you agree. We can put that to rest.

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Del wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 10:30[…]

I dispute how the Jesuits pull at the threads, choosing minor threads …

[…]

Mass deportation of illegal aliens is less merciful than I would like, but at least is seeks to restore justice.

[…]
"Minor threads", eh?

:think:

Let's see what the Pope sez:
Pope Francis wrote:“I have followed closely the major crisis that is taking place in the United States with the initiation of a program of mass deportations,” the pope said.

[…]

The act of deportation “is not a minor issue,” the pope stated.

Link: The News & Topicality Thread
"Major Crisis". "Not a Minor Issue".

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Wosbald wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 11:11 Let's see what the Pope sez:
Pope Francis wrote:“I have followed closely the major crisis that is taking place in the United States with the initiation of a program of mass deportations,” the pope said.

[…]

The act of deportation “is not a minor issue,” the pope stated.

Link: The News & Topicality Thread
"Major Crisis". "Not a Minor Issue".

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I don't think you are paying any attention to me.

No one says that deportation is a "minor issue." Just as no one says that open borders/illegal immigration is not a "major crisis."

It seems a matter of which side of major crisis that either side wants to ignore. I regret the lack of wisdom, nuance, and respect for Justice and Mercy that both sides fail. Both open border Democrats and MAGA Republicans have gone to extreme positions.

Unfortunately for the gay Jesuits, their licentious Democrats are on the wrong side of all the other moral issues.... and they aren't even rightly centered on immigration. MAGA Republicans won the popular vote on the platform of mass deportations, and so it shall be.

Nobody cares if you or me or the Pope would prefer mass amnesty for peaceful families. That's not on the menu, anywhere.

I do appreciate that Trump, Noem, and Homan are concentrating on violent illegal aliens first.... giving space for peaceful illegal aliens to arrange their affairs unmolested by ICE. That is generous.
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Del wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 11:41[…]

No one says that deportation is a "minor issue." Just as no one says that open borders/illegal immigration is not a "major crisis."

[…]
Except that, in measuring the "GOP vs. Dems", the Pope didn't equate two aspects of Immigration policy.

Rather, he equated Immigration and Abortion.

Again, let's see what the Pope sez:
Pope Francis wrote:Both are against life: the one that throws out migrants and the one that kills children.

Link: The News & Topicality Thread
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Wosbald wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 12:22 +JMJ+
Del wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 11:41[…]

No one says that deportation is a "minor issue." Just as no one says that open borders/illegal immigration is not a "major crisis."

[…]
Except that, in measuring the "GOP vs. Dems", the Pope didn't equate two aspects of Immigration policy.

Rather, he equated Immigration and Abortion.

Again, let's see what the Pope sez:
Pope Francis wrote:Both are against life: the one that throws out migrants and the one that kills children.

Link: The News & Topicality Thread
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The two are clearly not equivalent.

I would let Democrats open the borders and hold Pride Parades every day, if they would only agree to protect innocent life in the womb.
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Wosbald wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 07:32 +JMJ+



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Hovannes wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 15:33
Wosbald wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 07:32 The product of The Catholic Thing has lately been of rather spotty quality (among other things, too many writers trying to channel the shade of GKC),

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Hovannes wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 15:33
Wosbald wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 07:32 +JMJ+



The product of The Catholic Thing has lately been of rather spotty quality (among other things, too many writers trying to channel the shade of GKC),

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GKC was generous with providing high quality shade. You could say he was built for it.
He was pretty ... up front about it.
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