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Wosbald wrote: 06 Oct 2024, 11:40 +JMJ+
Del wrote: 06 Oct 2024, 11:32
Wosbald wrote: 06 Oct 2024, 09:47 "Good Jew/Bad Jew" narrative
I have no idea what you are talking about.

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If yer just citing stats and not parroting the Trump schtick, then fine. Stick with that. Leave the coopting to Antisemites in yer midst.

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I think that I heard that one. Trump pointed out that American Jews who vote for Kamala are voting against their own interests.... something like that. Something about "needing to have their heads examined." Specifically because Kamala is half-hearted in her support for Israel, world peace, and defeating terrorists. Not doing enough to sanction and control Iran, and not doing anything to protect American Jews on campuses and in their neighborhoods.

Okay, I'll agree that Trump has a way with words and a knack for stating the obvious.

But there aren't many people who take their information from what Trump says. It's more like Trump just says the things that most people of the Right are already thinking.
That's basically what populism is -- real democracy, where the elected leaders do what the people want them to do. It's the opposite of Ideology, where the elected leaders ignore the people and follow some theory of ideal society. Some theory in which everything works perfectly, except reality.
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Del wrote: 06 Oct 2024, 14:32
Wosbald wrote: 06 Oct 2024, 11:40
Del wrote: 06 Oct 2024, 11:32 I have no idea what you are talking about.

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This is just what the polls are saying, and it conforms with a lot of personal experience.
If yer just citing stats and not parroting the Trump schtick, then fine. Stick with that. Leave the coopting to Antisemites in yer midst.

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I think that I heard that one. Trump pointed out that American Jews who vote for Kamala are voting against their own interests.... something like that. Something about "needing to have their heads examined." Specifically because Kamala is half-hearted in her support for Israel, world peace, anddefeating terrorists. Not doing enough to sanction and control Iran, and not doing anything to protect American Jews on campuses and in their neighborhoods.

Okay, I'll agree that Trump has … a knack for stating the obvious.

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Well, if yer now supporting the Trumpian schtick as "stating the obvious truth", then you're back on the Antisemitic side of the equation.

One must choose either citing stats with the pollsters or pushing the Good Jew/Bad Jew narrative with the Antisemites. One can't have both.

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Wosbald wrote: 06 Oct 2024, 15:25 Well, if yer now supporting the Trumpian schtick as "stating the obvious truth", then you're back on the Antisemitic side of the equation.

One must choose either citing stats with the pollsters or pushing the Good Jew/Bad Jew narrative with the Antisemites. One can't have both.
The Trumpian shtick is that Democrats are anti-Semitic. Deserves a grain of salt, but true enough in practice.

Democrats don't support Israel and Democrats hate people of faith, so American Jews get a double dose of Democrat Party ire and neglect.

The data indicate that devout, worshipping Evangelicals, Catholics, and Jews are voting overwhelmingly for Trump.

Republicans purge anti-Semites and bigots from their midst. Democrats coddle those who promote identity politics, and favor Moslems over Jews by a large degree.
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It seems as though the Vatican-istas learned nothing from either the Cold War or the origins of World War Two.
I fear that's a poverty that's going to get a lot more people killed.
It is more a pity that we don't have JP2 to lead the Church right now.

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Hovannes wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 14:28 It seems as though the Vatican-istas learned nothing from either the Cold War or the origins of World War Two.
I fear that's a poverty that's going to get a lot more people killed.
It is more a pity that we don't have JP2 to lead the Church right now.

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I don't. JP2 was a great pope, and he still has a lot to say to us in the present.

But we got the exact pope we need right now. Indeed, a lot of people may die, but that's because of not listening to this pope.

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Wosbald wrote: 08 Oct 2024, 01:09 +JMJ+
Hovannes wrote: 07 Oct 2024, 14:28 It seems as though the Vatican-istas learned nothing from either the Cold War or the origins of World War Two.
I fear that's a poverty that's going to get a lot more people killed.
It is more a pity that we don't have JP2 to lead the Church right now.

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I don't. JP2 was a great pope, and he still has a lot to say to us in the present.

But we got the exact pope we need right now. Indeed, a lot of people may die, but that's because of not listening to this pope.

:twocents-mytwocents:
We'll see.
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