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Del wrote: ↑31 Jul 2024, 11:03

Wosbald wrote: ↑26 Jul 2024, 08:19 ping

Kamala is running her first ad, insisting that she is more serious about securing our border than Donald Trump is.

50 seconds on X.

x DOT com/KamalaHQ/status/1818414386362409091


Naturally, I expect NCR and friends to protest this message.

Wosbald wrote: ↑31 Jul 2024, 11:16 +JMJ+

Del wrote: ↑31 Jul 2024, 11:03

Wosbald wrote: ↑26 Jul 2024, 08:19 ping

Kamala is running her first ad, insisting that she is more serious about securing our border than Donald Trump is.

50 seconds on X.

x DOT com/KamalaHQ/status/1818414386362409091


Naturally, I expect NCR and friends to protest this message.

Considering that I've already posted a number of articles criticizing the Biden Admin's continuance (and in some respects, even excession) of unacceptable Trump-era anti-Migrant policies/rhetoric, I would think so.*

Time will tell.






*Depending upon what her "message" actually is, of course — as quickly looking at your linked advert, nothing immediately jumps out at me as being hostile to Catholic nonnegotiables.

Hovannes wrote: ↑01 Aug 2024, 21:18 I noticed that Del got a nice write up in the latest edition of Gilbert, the magazine of the American Chesterton Society, for his work with the Chesterton Academy

Hovannes wrote: ↑02 Aug 2024, 16:13 Hey, it' news....and topical!

Auxiliary Bishop Lizardo Estrada Herrera of Cuzco, Peru, spoke with National Catholic Reporter July 8–9 as he prepared to meet with United Nations officials in New York about the dire situation facing much of Latin America: rising violence, government corruption, decreasing support for democracy, destruction of habitats due to climate change and spiraling economies — all leading to massive migration from Latin America and the Caribbean to other parts of the world.

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"These [U.N.] studies show specifically this moment of sadness, an increasing sadness, as we watch these suffering Christs, our brothers and sisters, leaving their homelands, not because they want to but because they don't have basic conditions [to live adequately] or because they're being persecuted," Estrada said. "And when they leave, they leave family behind, their culture, everything. And sometimes on that journey they also leave life itself behind, dying on that journey."

The Catholic Church, through its parishes, shelters, diners, humanitarian organizations, religious communities and volunteers, carries out heroic work with migrants "in the jungle, the mountains, the most difficult places" to reach, but the church "cannot meet a demand that grows and grows," he said.

Particularly worrisome, said Estrada, is the increasing hostility, including by some Catholics, against migrants and those who help them. Some don't see that it's incoherent to participate in a public act of piety, such as taking Communion or being deferential toward the Eucharist, while at the same time harming a person in need with words or actions that deny them a chance at life, he said.

"Dear Catholic brother and sister, the Christ you encounter in the Eucharist is the same Christ you encounter in the poor!" he said in a message to those who take part in the Sacrament. "You can't kneel in front of the Eucharist, where God exists, and not also see that same God in the migrant, the one who suffers, the poor, the sick, the person in prison."

The conference of Latin American bishops, known as CELAM for its Spanish acronym, worries particularly about those fomenting rejection and hate against migrants for political purposes, he said, resulting in verbal and physical violence, or denying migrants water, food or shelter, something that's become commonplace, he said.

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"For us, it's urgent that governments, the United Nations, the entire world know the situation and think about the situation, about laws concerning migration and how to find solutions," he said. "Jesus came so we would have life, abundant life, but if there's no work, there's no food, there's no respect for human rights, it is not life."

Wosbald wrote: ↑03 Aug 2024, 09:13 Source: National Catholic Reporter

NBC News asked acting ICE Director Patrick J. Lechleitner about what would be required to deport millions of people.

Lechleitner was not commenting on the Republican convention platform but said in general deportation is very complicated and requires an enormous amount of logistics: “It’s not only putting them on planes and flying them, which is expensive, we got to have airplanes. We also have to deal with host nations. We have to get travel documents, we have to do all the logistics involved with that.”

He said for some people who are not in detention, the path to deportation can take years. “We have to monitor them that whole time. That’s resource intensive,” he said.

Abigail Andrews, a professor of urban studies and planning at the University of California, San Diego who has been studying deportation data for the past 10 years, said she’s highly skeptical about how a mass deportation effort would unfold.

“There is no logistical way to track down 10 to 12 million undocumented immigrants with the ICE employees they currently have,” she said.

She said the vast majority of deportees are not arrested in their homes by ICE agents but have had some interaction with local law enforcement, like a traffic stop, that leads them eventually into ICE custody. Andrews said efforts undertaken by ICE to hunt down criminals in neighborhoods are traditionally reserved for those who are convicted or suspected of serious violent crimes. And she noted that research has established that immigrants commit less crime than average Americans.

Ammon Blair, a former Border Patrol agent who left the agency in 2023 and is now a senior fellow at the Texas Public Policy Foundation, also expressed skepticism. "I honestly just don’t see it happening," he said. "One, because I think it’s political suicide, and two, I think we need to focus on national security issues."

Blair said an effort of the size proposed would require heavy involvement from local law enforcement — and he said border cities are already handling enough. "We don’t have the manpower or space to handle," he said. "The federal spending would have to flow to these local agencies." He also said the optics of deporting children could create significant backlash.

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The ICE budget for transportation and deportation in 2023 was $420 million, and in that year the agency deported 142,580 people. Costs of deportation vary widely depending on the country and include variables such as commercial flight costs, security needs and the use of charter flights. Removal of 10 million people could easily cost in the tens of billions.

But the millions of deportees would also have to be detained and housed prior to removal. Currently ICE manages 41,500 beds across 200 jail and detention centers at a cost of $57,378 per year per bed, according to public budget documents. In the event of a mass deportation, the government would need to pay for far more beds.

The combined cost, Andrews said, “would be astronomical.”

Those who support a mass deportation say the cost to detain and remove undocumented immigrants is worth it because of the significant cost savings related to education and health care spending on undocumented communities.

As for families with mixed status such as those with children who are citizens and parents who are undocumented, one of the former Trump officials sees it as an opportunity, hoping that the threat of removing one member will propel whole families to leave. “Your parents can’t use you as a prop to justify their illegal presence,” the former official said.

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Mario Russell, executive director of the Center for Migration Studies, a think tank that advocates for immigrant rights, agrees that deporting millions of people would require all aspects of government. “But it would be folly and absurdly expensive and counterproductive, not to mention profoundly cruel,” he said. His team estimates that about 50% of the nation’s undocumented population are actually people who overstayed their visas. He said others might have “Dreamer” status, temporary worker status or are working their way through the asylum system.

He also said his group prepared for a similar mass deportation scenario prior to Trump’s inauguration in 2017 and no removal of millions of immigrants materialized. “One is left to wonder if it’s more talk than threat,” he said.

Wosbald wrote: ↑05 Aug 2024, 10:57 +JMJ+

NBC News asked ... to deport millions of people.