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The Right to Migrate / Fascism
Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 11:26
by Wosbald
+JMJ+
Del wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 20:07
Wosbald wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 15:40
Del wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 14:34
Let me explain this to you in small words and simple phrases:
Due process is to apply for …
[…]
You're merely responding to your own Delsplanations and not to what the bishops actually write, viz., that "Border Enforcement
must be accompanied by Due Process" (and
not that "Border Enforcement
is Due Process").
I know what the Bishops "said".... and yes, I am explaining what they wanted to mean. …
[…]
Welp.
The Right to Migrate / Fascism
Posted: 16 Dec 2024, 06:19
by Del
Wosbald wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 11:26
+JMJ+
Del wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 20:07
I know what the Bishops "said".... and yes, I am explaining what they wanted to mean. …
[…]
Welp.
I'm doing the same as you. I'm filtering what the media are saying about our bishops and sussing what they really mean.
I am also filtering what is being said about Trump and sussing what Trump really wants to accomplish.
I have some hope that Trump and the bishops are mostly on the same page, while the media want to present them as sharply at odds.
The News & Topicality Thread
Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 12:37
by Jocose
https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1873123362354151906
There is no such thing as a ‘right to migrate’
Immigrants are guests invited by by the nation
And the nation decides who to invite
This is how every nation outside the West works
The News & Topicality Thread
Posted: 30 Dec 2024, 21:54
by Del
There actually is something akin to a "right to migrate." It is something like the "right to marry."
Every adult man has a natural right to marry.... but only to a woman who will consent to have him as her husband. It would be unjust for a government to forbid some class of men from marrying and providing for a family. But a guy can be so unfit that no woman would find him suitable. It would be unjust to force a woman to marry him.
Likewise, every person has a natural right to leave his homeland and emigrate to any nation who will allow him to dwell there. North Korea does not let their people leave... this is unjust. But some people are so uncivilized that no one wants them.... just as Egypt refuses to accept Palestinian refugees because they are too dangerous to admit. It would be unjust to force citizens who have built a peaceful society to accept unruly and uncivilized neighbors.
The Right to Migrate / Fascism
Posted: 01 Jan 2025, 13:13
by Wosbald
+JMJ+
Title: No sanctuary? Trump reportedly plans to reverse policy, permit ICE arrests at churches
Source:
National Catholic Reporter / OSV News
Link: ncronline DOT org/news/no-sanctuary-trump-reportedly-plans-reverse-policy-permit-ice-arrests-churches
The Money-Quotes:
The incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump plans to rescind a long-standing policy preventing Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents from making arrests at what are seen as sensitive locations, including houses of worship, schools and hospitals, according to a report by NBC News.
[…]
"It is clear that local parishes and pastors will need to be prepared for enforcement activity both near and on church property, and should at least require that ICE agents have a warrant before entering a church," J. Kevin Appleby, senior fellow for policy at The Center for Migration Studies of New York and the former director of migration policy for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, told OSV News.
"This certainly is an infringement on religious freedom and will deter immigrant families from attending Mass and receiving the sacraments," Appleby said. "The U.S. bishops should be very concerned about this deportation scheme and push back against it strongly, as it is as much an attack on the life of the church in this country as it is against immigrant families."
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The Trump Admin needs to tread softly if they want their recent rhetoric about respecting Human Rights & Dignity to prove true, else the Catholic pushback will only grow — and grow exponentially.
The Right to Migrate / Fascism
Posted: 02 Jan 2025, 19:08
by Del
Wosbald wrote: 01 Jan 2025, 13:13
+JMJ+
Title: No sanctuary? Trump reportedly plans to reverse policy, permit ICE arrests at churches
Source:
National Catholic Reporter / OSV News
Link: ncronline DOT org/news/no-sanctuary-trump-reportedly-plans-reverse-policy-permit-ice-arrests-churches
The Money-Quotes:
The incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump plans to rescind a long-standing policy preventing Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents from making arrests at what are seen as sensitive locations, including houses of worship, schools and hospitals, according to a report by NBC News.
[…]
"It is clear that local parishes and pastors will need to be prepared for enforcement activity both near and on church property, and should at least require that ICE agents have a warrant before entering a church," J. Kevin Appleby, senior fellow for policy at The Center for Migration Studies of New York and the former director of migration policy for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, told OSV News.
"This certainly is an infringement on religious freedom and will deter immigrant families from attending Mass and receiving the sacraments," Appleby said. "The U.S. bishops should be very concerned about this deportation scheme and push back against it strongly, as it is as much an attack on the life of the church in this country as it is against immigrant families."
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The Trump Admin needs to tread softly if they want their recent rhetoric about respecting Human Rights & Dignity to prove true, else the Catholic pushback will only grow — and grow exponentially.
The easiest and wisest response will be to ignore anything that
National Catholic Reporter says and wait until reality is evident.
NCR does not care about migrants.... They only want to poison our hope in justice and the Trump Administration. This is certainly a toxic rumor, not likely to be anything more.
Not a single quote from a minor bureaucrat of the incoming Trump Admin. Not a single official quote from the Catholic hierarchy or a minor staffer. Just some NGO guys, hoping to get paid.
Wake us up when something real happens.
The News & Topicality Thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 09:41
by Jocose
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1876563478674116673
GEORGE SOROS, THE BILLIONAIRE BEHIND THE EU MIGRANT CRISIS
Hungarian PM Viktor Orban exposed how Soros told the EU it had to accept millions of migrants:
“Mr. George Soros published his plan in English in the Project Syndicate publication in 2015.
He said very clearly that, quoting again, the EU has to accept at least a million asylum seekers annually.
So this is why the story is not just about migration, but it's about how this European Union is working and how George Soros was able to capture the main positions inside many institutions of the European Union, buying out MPs and other leaders and in order to execute the plan.”
Source:
@AdamMoczar
The News & Topicality Thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:57
by Jocose
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1876446327254704534
Elon wrote:George Soros spent billions to create the fake asylum-seeker nightmare that is destroying America and Europe
I wonder what the pope will have to say about this, if anything
The News & Topicality Thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:07
by Jocose
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1876830169899405720
Elon wrote: George Soros’s hatred of humanity includes Israel btw
i wonder what the catholic review, catholic reporter, crux, wos, and/or the pope will say
The News & Topicality Thread
Posted: 09 Jan 2025, 20:42
by Del
It is curious that Elon Musk has taken a sudden interest in the world's real-life Bond villains, like Soros and Starmer.