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So, the bishop is a retard?
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Biff wrote: 14 Dec 2022, 10:22 So, the bishop is a retard?
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Biff wrote: 14 Dec 2022, 10:22 So, the bishop is a retard?
Note the money quotes from Wozzie's article:
NEW YORK — Marking the annual celebration of Our Lady of Guadalupe on Dec. 12, the U.S. Bishops’ Conference Migration Chair said immigrants are “visible signs of Christ among us,” and called on federal authorities to work towards essential policy and infrastructure changes at the southern border.

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At this time of crisis at the border Seitz said that the U.S. bishops continue to affirm the natural right for people to migrate that must be balanced with the right that countries have to uphold their borders, as well as the obligation they have to provide humane processes for newcomers.
The Bishop is saying that Biden is a retard.

The bishop of El Paso is calling for a return to Trump's immigration policy: "A big, beautiful wall with a great big door."
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Del wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 08:46
Biff wrote: 14 Dec 2022, 10:22 So, the bishop is a retard?
Note the money quotes from Wozzie's article:
I never read Woz's articles. If I wanted to read Crux, I'd read Crux (or whatever).
Del wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 08:46 At this time of crisis at the border Seitz said that the U.S. bishops continue to affirm the natural right for people to migrate that must be balanced with the right that countries have to uphold their borders, as well as the obligation they have to provide humane processes for newcomers.
The Bishop is saying that Biden is a retard.

The bishop of El Paso is calling for a return to Trump's immigration policy: "A big, beautiful wall with a great big door."
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Even that little quote doesn't look like the Bishop is saying anything of the sort. They aren't 'migrants' they are ILLEGAL immigrants. They have NO rights. Zip, nada, bupkus, the Bishop is a retard.
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Biff wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 20:50
Del wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 08:46
Biff wrote: 14 Dec 2022, 10:22 So, the bishop is a retard?
Note the money quotes from Wozzie's article:
I never read Woz's articles. If I wanted to read Crux, I'd read Crux (or whatever).
Del wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 08:46 At this time of crisis at the border Seitz said that the U.S. bishops continue to affirm the natural right for people to migrate that must be balanced with the right that countries have to uphold their borders, as well as the obligation they have to provide humane processes for newcomers.
The Bishop is saying that Biden is a retard.

The bishop of El Paso is calling for a return to Trump's immigration policy: "A big, beautiful wall with a great big door."
Even that little quote doesn't look like the Bishop is saying anything of the sort. They aren't 'migrants' they are ILLEGAL immigrants. They have NO rights. Zip, nada, bupkus, the Bishop is a retard.
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Republicans accuse Catholic Charities of breaking the law in its border response
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Migrants cross the Mexico–U.S. border to surrender to U.S. Border Patrol agents from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, on Dec. 12. According to the Ciudad Juarez Human Rights Office, hundreds of mostly Central American migrants arrived in buses and crossed the border to seek asylum in the U.S., after spending the night in shelters. (AP Photo/Christian Chavez)

Catholic Charities USA officials pushed back strongly against allegations from Republican House of Representatives members that its humanitarian responses to the U.S. border crisis were potentially criminal acts. In a statement released on Dec. 15, C.C.U.S.A. said those accusations were “both fallacious and factually inaccurate. Our life-saving humanitarian work neither violates federal laws nor endangers communities.”

“As our nation grapples with escalating turmoil at the southwestern border of the United States and a highly charged political environment, it is incredibly disturbing for Catholic Charities — the domestic humanitarian arm of the U.S. Catholic Church — to be accused of violating federal laws, fueling the dramatic increase in migrants crossing the border and inhibiting immigration enforcement by facilitating the transport of migrants to the nation’s interior,” C.C.U.S.A. said in its statement.

“The ministry of care provided to migrants by Catholic Charities has been ongoing, across multiple administrations, since our founding in 1910,” the agency said. “To care for people who are at-risk, including vulnerable people on the move, is a part of the fabric of the global Catholic Church and is mandated by the gospel.”

C.C.U.S.A. was responding to a letter it received on Dec. 14 from four House representatives demanding that C.C.U.S.A. preserve documents “related to any expenditures submitted for reimbursement from the federal government related to migrants encountered at the southern border. This applies to all funds associated with shelter, food, transportation, basic health and first aid, COVID-19 testing and associated medical care needed during quarantine and isolation, and other supportive services.”

The letter — from Congress members Lance Gooden and Jake Ellzey of Texas, Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin and Andy Biggs of Arizona — included a warning: “Next Congress, we will continue to investigate your organization’s role in facilitating the border crisis, your potential violations of federal law, and your misuse of taxpayer funds.”

Accusations that humanitarian groups like C.C.U.S.A. have been engaged in human trafficking because of efforts to assist migrant arrivals and asylum claimants in the United States have been a favorite canard among right wing media outlets in recent years, though virtually all C.C.U.S.A.’s humanitarian efforts are vetted and even funded by government agencies, and migrants and asylum seekers are typically delivered into C.C.U.S.A.’s hands by members of the U.S. Border Patrol themselves.

C.C.U.S.A insisted in its response that its “humanitarian care (food, clean clothes, bathing facilities, overnight respite) is provided legally.”

“It typically begins after an asylum-seeker has been processed and released by the federal government. Both U.S. and international law provide for the right to seek asylum at another country’s border.”

C.C.U.S.A. reminded the members of Congress: “Without the assistance of Catholic Charities and other humanitarian organizations, many migrant families and individuals would be on the streets of our nation’s communities. These communities are better equipped to handle large numbers of migrants precisely because of our humanitarian services.”

The letter from the G.O.P. Congress members was delivered to Catholic Charities national headquarters the same day that Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott likewise seemed to target Catholic Charities and other humanitarian agencies that work with migrants on both sides of the border. In a letter to the Texas Attorney General’s office, Mr. Abbott, a Catholic, urged the state’s chief prosecutor to “initiate an investigation into the role of NGOs in planning and facilitating the illegal transportation of illegal immigrants across our borders.”

According to the governor: “There have been recent reports that non-governmental organizations (NGOs) may have assisted with illegal border crossings near El Paso. We further understand NGOs may be engaged in unlawfully orchestrating other border crossings through activities on both sides of the border, including in sectors other than El Paso.”

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Dylan Corbett, the founding executive director of the Hope Border Institute, an advocacy and service agency based in El Paso, said the two letters represented “an escalation in anti-immigrant rhetoric.”

“I’m worried now that as we enter a new Congress that there’s going to be greater politicization of what’s going on and attacks on the church’s agencies, which are doing their best in a really difficult environment with few resources to provide a dignified welcome for people at the border.”

Mr. Corbett bristled at insinuations that church agencies are engaged in human trafficking because of their assistance to migrants. “That’s categorically false,” he said.

“The reality is … if there were legal pathways for people to come to the United States who are in need of protection, that would be the biggest dent that you could make in human trafficking at the border. But in the meantime, Catholic agencies at the border are providing humanitarian relief to people in need, to the vulnerable, and working as hard as they can to make sure that what few windows of opportunity are available for protection for people who need it” remain open.

C.C.U.S.A. and other humanitarian groups working at the border have been similarly targeted in the past because of the many federally approved and funded programs its agencies provide in a humanitarian role across the Southwest. The impetus for this latest round of allegations from Republicans appears to be the impending court-ordered termination of the use of Title 42, a public health regulation that has been employed during the Covid-19 pandemic by the Trump and Biden administrations to turn back migrants at the border.

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Mr. Corbett called Mr. Abbott’s letter political grandstanding that “certainly sounds like a move towards criminalizing humanitarian work, good Samaritans.” He called it irresponsible and potentially dangerous to humanitarian workers who have already been confronted by self-appointed border militia members. He noted that El Paso has already endured its share of suffering because of “rhetoric that demonizes migrants and attacks border communities,” recalling a terrorist attack in 2019 at an El Paso department store that left 23 dead.

Beyond those perils, he said that the governor’s accusations come at a particularly difficult moment “when we need solutions, we need collaboration and we need genuine leadership from our political leaders.”

“In my community of El Paso right now,” Mr. Corbett said, “what’s happening doesn’t look at all like the images that the governor is painting … This is a community that’s coming together; we’re doing our best.

“And I can say that we’re working in excellent collaboration at the local level among federal authorities, our local governments, border enforcement agencies, humanitarian organizations [and] N.G.O.s on both sides of the border to deal with a really broken situation,” Mr. Corbett said. “We’re picking up the pieces … of a broken immigration system. We shouldn’t have to be working at cross purposes with anyone in government.”

Joan Rosenhauer, the executive director of Jesuit Refugee Services/USA, responded to the two letters in a statement released to America. “JRS/USA works every day with people who have fled violence and persecution and are seeking legal opportunities to request asylum in the U.S.,” she said. “Many wait patiently in Mexico for months for an opportunity to enter the U.S. legally, and we help them seek those legal pathways.

“Their stories need to be understood,” she said, “but accusations like this can create a false narrative, which can be damaging, about the work that N.G.O.s are doing at the border and ultimately cause harm to asylum-seekers and the organizations serving them.”

Concluding their statement to the four members of Congress, C.C.U.S.A. called once again for the passage of a comprehensive immigration reform legislative package that has been tied up in Congress since 2013.

“Let us be clear,” C.C.U.S.A officials said. “The  U.S. immigration system is in dire need of reform; Catholic Charities and all those agencies and individuals responding to this national crisis are operating within a broken system. We urge all Americans to ask the administration and their Congressional representatives to act on this important issue, as we have done.”


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Supreme Court keeps Title 42 restriction on border entry in place for now

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George, 5, a migrant boy from Venezuela who is traveling with his family to seek asylum in the United States, plays with a Captain America doll along the border between Mexico and the United States in Ciudad Juárez, Mexico, Dec. 27, 2022. In the background members of the Texas National Guard were positioned on the banks of the Rio Grande to reinforce border security and inhibit migrants from crossing into the U.S. (CNS photo/Jose Luis Gonzalez, Reuters)

In an end-of-the year decision, the Supreme Court said Dec. 27 that a federal public health rule that allows immigration officials at the border to quickly turn away migrants seeking asylum could stay in place while legal challenges to the policy played out.

In a 5–4 decision, the justices stopped a trial judge's ruling that would have lifted the measure, known as Title 42 of the Public Health Services Act, on Dec. 21.

Chief Justice John Roberts had already put that order on pause Dec. 19 responding to an emergency request filed by 19 states asking the justices to keep Title 42 in place.

The Trump administration used the public health measure during the pandemic to allow U.S. border officials to expel migrants quickly without giving them an opportunity to seek asylum in the United States.

"Our hearts (are) broken by this decision and the many people that will be further harmed because of it," tweeted the Interfaith Immigration Coalition Dec. 27.

They said that as people of faith, they were calling on President Joe Biden to "do everything in his power to welcome people seeking safety with the compassion they deserve."

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Title 42 gives the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention the power to bar the entry of individuals into the United States to protect the public from contagious diseases.

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Migrant advocates, including Catholic church organizations, women religious and Bishop Mark J. Seitz of El Paso, Texas, chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops' migration committee, have strongly supported ending Title 42.

Texas border cities, like El Paso, had been preparing for the surge of new migrants as the pandemic-era rule was scheduled to end.

In mid-December, Dylan Corbett, director of the Hope Border Institute, a Catholic organization helping migrants, said constant changing policies make it hard for organizations such as his to plan.

"You have a lot of pent-up pain," he told The Associated Press, noting that with government border policies in disarray, "the majority of the work falls to faith communities to pick up the pieces and deal with the consequences."

In October, Seitz issued a statement expressing his disappointment that Title 42 had been expanded to Venezuelans seeking to cross the border.

"Now we must all work harder, especially the faith community, to build a culture of hospitality that respects the dignity of those who migrate, and to continue to press lawmakers and the Biden administration to establish a safe, humane, functioning and rights-respecting system to ensure protection to those in need," he said.


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New US border measures ‘not in line with international standards’, warns UNHCR

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Plans by the Biden administration to expand restrictions on people seeking refuge in the United States are “not in line with refugee law standards”, the UN refugee agency, UNHCR, said on Friday.

According to reports, the reforms would deny migrants the chance to seek asylum in the US if they crossed from Mexico into the US without permission.

But President Biden also said that up to 30,000 people per month from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela could come legally, if they meet a series of requirements, including finding a sponsor and demonstrate they are able to afford a plane ticket.

UNHCR spokesperson Boris Cheshirkov told journalists in Geneva that while the UN agency welcomed the expanded safe and regular pathways for entry to the US for some, the new measures “must not preclude people forced to flee from exercising their fundamental human right to seek safety”.

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Seeking asylum is a fundamental human right, the agency stressed.

UNHCR will continue to engage with the US and other Governments, to expand safe pathways and develop protection and solutions for asylum seekers — in line with international standards, the Spokesperson said.


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Border measures expanding access and expulsions aren’t progress, bishop says

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Migrants wait to be processed to seek asylum after crossing the border into the United States, Friday, Jan. 6, 2023, near Yuma, Ariz. President Joe Biden says the U.S. will immediately begin turning away Cubans, Haitians and Nicaraguans who cross the border from Mexico illegally. It’s his boldest move yet to confront spiraling arrivals of migrants since he took office two years ago. (Credit: Gregory Bull/AP)

NEW YORK — While new border measures from the Biden administration expand legal pathways for migrants to enter the country, the U.S. bishops’ chair on migration warns they also simultaneously expand expulsions — which, he said, isn’t really progress.

“We welcome the announcement of new legal pathways to the United States, but it is difficult for us to consider this progress when the same pathways are contingent on preventing those forced to flee their native land from availing themselves of the right to seek asylum at our border,” Bishop Mark Seitz of El Paso, the USCCB migration chair said in a statement. “Under this approach, many of the most vulnerable will be excluded from relief and subjected to dangerous circumstances.”

“It simply defies reason and lived realities to require those facing persecution, trafficking, and torture to only pursue protection from within those potentially life-threatening situations,” he added.

The Biden administration announced the new border enforcement actions on Jan. 5. They were dubbed in the announcement as measures that will “expand and expedite legal pathways for orderly migration and result in new consequences for those who fail to use those legal pathways.”

Under the measures, up to 30,000 migrants from each of Nicaragua, Haiti and Cuba who have an eligible sponsor and pass vetting and background checks can come to the United States for two years and receive work authorization. The program is modeled after similar policies the government has offered to Venezuelans and Ukrainians who come to the States seeking safety.

Conversely, as of the Jan. 5 announcement any individuals who irregularly cross the Panama, Mexico, or U.S. border will be ineligible for the parole process and will be subject to expulsion to Mexico, which, according to the Biden administration, will accept returns of 30,000 individuals per month from Nicaragua, Haiti, Cuba and Venezuela.

Another measure in the Biden administration’s new plan subjects individuals who attempt to enter the country without permission, do not have a legal basis to remain, and can’t be removed via Title 42, to be removed through expedited removal to their country of origin with a five-year ban on reentry.

Title 42 — a controversial Trump-era measure allowing the immediate expulsion of immigrants — also remains in place. It was scheduled to lift on Dec. 21, before the Supreme Court intervened and kept it in place. The high court on Jan. 6 said it will hear arguments on the measure on March 1.

“This is a drastic departure from the Administration’s promise to create a ‘fair, orderly, and humane’ immigration system and will only exacerbate challenges on both sides of our border,” Seitz said. “Even for those who are permitted to enter the United States, we continue to be concerned about their access to housing, work authorization, legal services, and other pressing needs.”

Other new measures include: the mobilization of additional border agents, expanded capabilities and technologies for border authorities to faster process migrants, and increased air and ground transportation capabilities to more efficiently remove migrants when warranted, or to transport migrants to less-congested border sectors to continue processing.

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Seitz decried the approach, saying “it simply defies reason and lived realities to require those facing persecution, trafficking, and torture to only pursue protection from within those potentially life-threatening situations.”

Biden, who travels to El Paso on Sunday to see the border crisis firsthand, also put the onus on Congress for the crisis, specifically Republicans, for not passing his proposed “comprehensive” immigration reform legislation proposed when he took office in 2020.

Seitz said the U.S. bishops “share the president’s disappointment regarding the lack of bipartisan cooperation in Congress” on addressing the broken immigration system. He also agreed with an assertion the president made that the root causes of migration need to be addressed, as well.

Still, the bishop was steadfast that the administration’s new measures weren’t the best approach.

“We urge the administration to reverse its present course in favor of humane solutions that recognize the God-given dignity of migrants and provide equitable access to immigration and humanitarian pathways,” he said.


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