The News & Topicality Thread

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https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1867268939677413602

The Biden regime is now rushing to sell off unused border wall materials so President Trump can't finish the wall quickly.

"The goal is to move all of it off the border before Christmas." - Border Patrol Whistleblower.

The army of trucks deployed by the regime is taking everything to the government auction site, where it'll all be sold for dirt cheap.

Every single person involved in this needs to be locked up for a long time. It's so treasonous.

Source:
@JamesLalino

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https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1867326430440558718

"There are certain groups that are encouraging and funding public chaos. All this stuff is real. That's why it's crazy having a guy like Mike Benz lay it all out. People think it's organic. No. There's a bunch of people profiting off of this. They want tighter grips on control. It's funded by taxpayer money that was filtered through NGOs. They want this to happen."

"We got to see that there are unscrupulous groups in power that see you as a human ATM machine and use you to maximize control. The world isn't a 1950s movie. There's a lot of human interests going on."

"The founders of this country created the constitution and bill of rights knowing that this human nature exists. Every time they pass a Patriot Act they keep chipping away at freedoms. This is the concept of the deep state. It's a conspiracy theory, until it's real."

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https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1867314616961052944

Mayor Eric Adams says the US can't account for 500k missing migrant children

[Del]

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1867314616961052944

Mayor Eric Adams says the US can't account for 500k missing migrant children

Adams met with Tom Homan today. Border Czar Homan is angry and heart-broken over what the Biden Admin has allowed to happen to those kids. He means to find them. So it is no surprise the lost kids got mention.

Adams wants to cooperate with ICE and Homan, unwind the crazy Sanctuary laws, hold illegal aliens who have committed crimes for ICE pick-up and deportation. Adams wants a safe city again.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/eric-a ... rcna184064

[Wosbald]

+JMJ+

Title: As border state bishops, New Mexico prelates urge Trump to reconsider mass deportation plans
Source: Catholic Review / OSV News
Link: catholicreview DOT org/as-border-state-bishops-new-mexico-prelates-urge-trump-to-reconsider-mass-deportation-plans/

The Money-Quote:

Arguing that the immigration system “is broken and is in need of reform,” [the New Mexico bishops, in their letter,] said policies “that ignore the human rights of those who come to the border and undermine human dignity are not the way to fix things.”

“While it is true that sovereign nations have a right and a responsibility to control their borders, this is not an absolute right, as the management of borders must be accompanied with humane treatment and due process protections,” the letter said. “We can achieve both goals: the protection of human rights and the security of the border and the nation.”

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More bishops concerned Due Process may be imperiled by the incoming Admin.

Things That Make You Go Hmmm…

[Del]

+JMJ+

Title: As border state bishops, New Mexico prelates urge Trump to reconsider mass deportation plans
Source: Catholic Review / OSV News
Link: catholicreview DOT org/as-border-state-bishops-new-mexico-prelates-urge-trump-to-reconsider-mass-deportation-plans/

The Money-Quote:

Arguing that the immigration system “is broken and is in need of reform,” [the New Mexico bishops, in their letter,] said policies “that ignore the human rights of those who come to the border and undermine human dignity are not the way to fix things.”

“While it is true that sovereign nations have a right and a responsibility to control their borders, this is not an absolute right, as the management of borders must be accompanied with humane treatment and due process protections,” the letter said. “We can achieve both goals: the protection of human rights and the security of the border and the nation.”

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More bishops concerned Due Process may be imperiled by the incoming Admin.

Things That Make You Go Hmmm…

Mass deportation is not a violation of due process or human rights. Although this is pointless to explain to you.

Bishops are concerned that peaceful migrants should be dealt with mercifully, in spite of due process. We should let persons reside in America as they await due process for asylum claims. We should grant residency status to the many who do not qualify for asylum. We should ignore our own laws and process because Biden let them in illegally and now they are settled here.

As Biden's America is largely responsible for the problem and the migrants are victims of injustice as much as citizens are, we should disregard law and due process, and show mercy when we can. This is what the bishops are asking.

I am sympathetic to the bishops' argument and the plight of peaceful families. I hope Trump and Homan are able to accomplish this. If Biden had not let the numbers grow so out of control, amnesty would have been much more reasonable to accomplish. If we can stop the influx of new illegal migrants, this might still be possible. If not, we must enforce deportations to deter others from storming our borders. The present nature of the problem will force the solutions that we must achieve.

[Wosbald]

+JMJ+

“While it is true that sovereign nations have a right and a responsibility to control their borders, this is not an absolute right, as the management of borders must be accompanied with humane treatment and due process protections,” the letter said.

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More bishops concerned Due Process may be imperiled by the incoming Admin.

Things That Make You Go Hmmm…

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Bishops are concerned that peaceful migrants should be dealt with mercifully, in spite of due process.

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That's not what the bishops said. Rather, what they said was the Right to Control Borders "must be accompanied by … due process".

Thus, Due Process is not a part of the Right of a Nation to Control Borders, but rather, is an external element which conditions or limits the exercise of the Nation's selfsame Right. An external element which, apparently, is in peril of being left out — ignored or forgotten — of the incoming Admin's exercise of Border Control management.

US bishops reminding Trump, Homan, Miller, etc. that there are limits to their power — limits to National Sovereignty — that they must not cross lest they transgress against a Higher Law? Hoo-boy! That's a recipe for fireworks, right there.

[Del]

Due Process

Let me explain this to you in small words and simple phrases:

Due process is to apply for immigration according to standard policy, wait in the home country, and enter when permission is granted.

Those facing emergencies can apply for asylum, according US and international rules concerning asylum.
For these, Due Process is a court hearing to evaluate the asylum claim.

This is Due Process for waiting:
US border policy decides where asylum applicants wait for court hearings.... wait somewhere in the US, or on the Mexican side of the border, or in their home countries. The international standard is to wait in a safe nation closest to the war zone or other disaster that forced people to flee their homes.

Anyhow, Biden let asylum seekers enter and go wherever they wanted, in defiance of US Law. Biden let millions in without due process.
Trump is changing the policy on waiting. He is promulgating the change.

Homan is enforcing the policy, prioritizing with dangerous criminals and searching for hundreds of thousands of lost kids.
In the meantime, we hope to swiftly process the peaceful supplicants with court hearings.

A great many asylum applicants will not qualify for asylum. They just wanted to come to America for the opportunities available here. These will be sent home and invited to apply for immigration according to the normal means.

Once we are able to secure the borders, we can be more generous in processing applicants. But we have to secure the border. In part, we must establish that illegal migrants will no longer be given free permission to remain.

This is exactly what you say the bishops want.
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But what the bishops really want is clemency for peaceful illegals to remain.... Even those who are waiting for due process. Even those who do not qualify for asylum.

And for my part, I am sympathetic to the bishops' request. But no such clemency can be considered until we get the border secured and end illegal migration.

I recall that you were opposed to any border security, walls and such, when we were in a position to avoid the mass migration problem.
Well, you got your wish. This is the fault of your ilk, not mine.

And now we must have mass deportations to restore order and justice, whether we like it or not. We must make it clear to the world that America is no longer neglecting our border security.

[Wosbald]

+JMJ+

Due Process

Let me explain this to you in small words and simple phrases:

Due process is to apply for …

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You're merely responding to your own Delsplanations and not to what the bishops actually write, viz., that "Border Enforcement must be accompanied by Due Process" (and not that "Border Enforcement is Due Process").

[Del]

+JMJ+

Due Process

Let me explain this to you in small words and simple phrases:

Due process is to apply for …

[…]

You're merely responding to your own Delsplanations and not to what the bishops actually write, viz., that "Border Enforcement must be accompanied by Due Process" (and not that "Border Enforcement is Due Process").

I know what the Bishops "said".... and yes, I am explaining what they wanted to mean. Because no one is failing in due process, except when Biden let millions in without due process.

Now we have a mess.... and it will get resolved, legally and with "due process," but it is not the degree of mercy that the bishops really want. Trump actually wants to extend that sort of mercy, and that is why he is focusing on criminals and finding lost kids first. Hopefully, we can speed up the due process of evaluating asylum claims for peaceful migrants in the meantime.

But our message to the world must be, "DON'T ENTER ILLEGALLY. YOU WILL BE DEPORTED."