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Title: There’s a Word for Blaming Jews for Anti-Semitism [Analysis, Opinion]
Source: The Atlantic
Link: theatlantic DOT com/ideas/archive/2023/09/musk-antisemitism-anti-defamation-league-twitter/675235/

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Elon Musk’s conceit that Jews cause themselves to be persecuted is as old as anti-Jewish bigotry itself.

[…]

Like any organization, the ADL is not above reproach. I’ve written critically about some of its well-meaning but misguided social-media-moderation efforts, and am to the group’s left on questions of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism. On the right, politically conservative Jews have long taken issue with the ADL’s more progressive stances. But none of this is what is driving the current consternation on Twitter.

This is readily apparent from Musk’s own tweets on the matter, which have amplified the anti-ADL attacks to millions of readers. Far from offering a considered critique of the organization, the bombastic billionaire has instead circulated cartoonish conspiracy theories about it. “The ADL, because they are so aggressive in their demands to ban social media accounts for even minor infractions, are ironically the biggest generators of anti-Semitism on this platform,” Musk wrote yesterday. Abuse of Jews on his site, he argued, is the consequence of Jews complaining about the abuse. (Chronology does not appear to be his strong suit.) Musk later insinuated that organizations like the ADL may be “complicit” in covertly creating the bigoted accounts they criticize. This is not a rational critique of the ADL’s advocacy; it is an irrational attempt to blame the Jewish group for Twitter’s failings. Musk is not shy about this motive behind his missives: The ADL “would potentially be on the hook for destroying half the value of the company, so roughly $22 billion.”

[…]

But though the ADL is not the cause of Twitter’s continuing unprofitability, it is a convenient culprit on which to pin the platform’s many failures. Anti-Semites love to blame Jews for whatever problems they personally perceive in the world. What is being done to the ADL on Twitter right now has little to do with the group’s conduct and everything to do with the symbolic role Jews play in the conspiratorial imagination. Rather than face up to the hate that has enveloped his platform, and the errors that led to the site’s degradation, Musk is claiming that the victims have had it coming. But no matter how many Jewish scapegoats he slaughters, he will not be able to revive his platform’s flagging fortunes, which stem from his own inadequacies, not Jewish mendacity.


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It turns out that ADL has morphed into another left-wing hate group, like Southern Poverty Law Center, targeting any mainstream conservative commenters and advocates, accusing them of "hate-speech."

ADL has condemned Matt Walsh, Libs of Tik-Tok, and Moms for Liberty.... even though Matt Walsh works for Ben Shapiro, Chaya Raichik is an Orthodox Jew, and Moms For Liberty has absolutely nothing ever to say about Jews or Israel. All three are primarily focused on getting Critical Race Theory, LGBT ideology, and pornography out of our schools. Matt Walsh also covers current news and conservative commentary, more generally.

Anyhow, ADL met with Elon Musk to talk about throttling anything they call "hate speech" on Twitter. ADL reported that the discussion was "productive."

This triggered #Ban TheADL to go viral. Naturally, ADL blames "white supremacists" -- which is their name for conservative Americans.

Simple, sad fact is that ADL have lost their way and failed their mission. Now millions of people who hate anti-semitism (as everyone does) also hate the ADL (who brought this upon themselves). They have become the National Catholic Reporter of Jewish secular views. Even Jews with conservative political values have lost respect for ADL.
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Del wrote: 08 Sep 2023, 18:59 It turns out that ADL has morphed into another left-wing hate group, like Southern Poverty Law Center, targeting any mainstream conservative commenters and advocates, accusing them of "hate-speech."

ADL has condemned Matt Walsh, Libs of Tik-Tok, and Moms for Liberty.... even though Matt Walsh works for Ben Shapiro, Chaya Raichik is an Orthodox Jew, and Moms For Liberty has absolutely nothing ever to say about Jews or Israel. All three are primarily focused on getting Critical Race Theory, LGBT ideology, and pornography out of our schools. Matt Walsh also covers current news and conservative commentary, more generally.

Anyhow, ADL met with Elon Musk to talk about throttling anything they call "hate speech" on Twitter. ADL reported that the discussion was "productive."

This triggered #Ban TheADL to go viral. Naturally, ADL blames "white supremacists" -- which is their name for conservative Americans.

Simple, sad fact is that ADL have lost their way and failed their mission. Now millions of people who hate anti-semitism (as everyone does) also hate the ADL (who brought this upon themselves). They have become the National Catholic Reporter of Jewish secular views. Even Jews with conservative political values have lost respect for ADL.
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https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/170167 ... 94569?s=20

ADL BEHIND TRUMP SOCIAL MEDIA BAN

Today at the All-In Summit, Elon Musk shared with the panel that the ADL was instrumental in de-platforming Donald Trump, and when his account was restored on 𝕏, they said that “constituted as hate speech.”
The hilarious part that Elon noted is that Trump “didn't even say anything. He has to say something at least say something or post something, for there to be incremental hateful conduct.” Calling this absurd.
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https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/170745 ... 16874?s=20

BREAKING: JEWISH LEADERS PRAISE X, AGREE ELON IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC

Elon Also Speaks on Russel Brand & Anti-Americanism in the Educational System

In today's incredible space, Jewish leaders praised Elon and 𝕏's achievement of being the world's 'only platform with true free speech', a complete contrast of the attacks by the ADL, the CCDH and the media.

Elon starting by saying how he went to a Hebrew preschool, that he's "aspirationally Jewish," and that his name is akin to being named Bob in Israel.

Ex-Israeli President Rudi agreed, joking that Elon’s name reminded him of home, considering it’s a very common name in Israel.

Short of publicly converting, I don't know how else Elon can prove he is not antisemitic 😂

The rest of the panel, including the 10th President of Israel
@presidentRuvi
, “the most famous Rabbi in America”
@RabbiShmuley
,
@benshapiro
,x and other Jewish leaders on the space, agreed.

ANTISEMITISM IN THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM

Elon also cautioned around the antisemitic sentiment within the far left, especially "elite high schools and colleges."

He cautioned this to be a "serious concern," and refers to claims by some in that community who believe Mossad were behind 9/11, also calling for the State of Israel not to exist, which he agreed is 'crazy'.

Elon also cautioned that elite high schools and colleges in the US are teaching kids 'crazy' anti-American propaganda. He's alarmed of many kids being "indoctrinated with this madness, without any historical context".

ANTISEMITISM ON 𝕏

Ben Shapiro, who the ADL labelled as “the biggest recipient of antisemitism”, confirmed that antisemitism on 𝕏 is SIGNIFICANTLY lower now compared to before Elon took over.

Elon confirmed this, saying antisemitism has "objectively" fallen on the platform.

The independent study by Sprinklr, which showed a massive drop in hate speech, proved this to be true.

Harvard Professor and prominent Jewish attorney
@AlanDersh
, who was a member of the ADL, applauded Elon on the 'Free Speech experiment' he is running on 𝕏, stating that 'no country in the world has really had free speech'.

He also urged Elon to not listen to the critics.

Elon replied with 𝕏 experimenting with 'freedom of speech, not freedom of reach'.

Elon also highlighted the importance of X's community notes successfully fighting disinformation, and applying to everyone including heads of state, advertisers and himself.

He joked how X even lost some advertisers as community notes corrected their posts 😂

Alan also praised 𝕏 to be "the only platform in the world to not take a stance on any issues", and achieving true free speech.

ELON ON RUSSELL BRAND

Shapiro asked Elon about ensuring people like Brand aren't demonetized unless and until they're convicted of a crime.

Elon agreed:

"He doesn't even have charges! Russell has obviously been rattling the cages of the powers that be... why now? Seems like an odd coincidence that this is happening when Russell is gaining traction questioning the conventional wisdom".

This is true. As soon as anyone in society with a voice rattles the mainstream media’s narrative, they are hunted.

When Brand was working with the media and pushing their views, they accepted him, but as soon as he turned his life around and 'rattled the cages', he became the enemy.

“Anyone could be accused at any time with false charges, and we can’t be destroying their lives with potentially false accusations.” -
@elonmusk
.

Too many people have been de-platformed, de-banked, and demonetized BEFORE their time in court. The media has become the judge, jury and executioner in the court of public opinion.

We MUST wait and abide by innocent till proven guilty.

How can anyone still claim Elon is antisemitic after this space??
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Chattering forces are still trying to twist Elon Musk's comments to suggest that he is anti-Semitic. Liars, of course. They are pressuring an advertiser boycott of "X."

Oddly, the voices accusing Musk are politically aligned with the anti-Semitic protestors supporting Palestine and Hamas. They don't care about Jews or Israel... they hate Elon Musk for championing free speech and for exposing the collusion of censorship by the Biden Administration and the previous owners of Twitter (and Facebook, YouTube, Google, the news media, etc.)

All the same, several major corporations (specifically, Disney) are threatening to quit advertising on "X."

So this happened:



I especially enjoyed the shout-out to Bob Iger at Disney.
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^ What a wacky interview. ^

Interviewer: Aren't you afraid of "them"?
Musk: No. Eff them.
Interviewer: But they have all the money.
Musk: No. They don't. Eff them.
Interviewer: But they have a lot of it and they may bankrupt your company by withholding it.
Musk: Yeah.
Interviewer: Don't you think people will blame you if the company fails?
Musk: No. People can clearly see what's going on here. They'll judge for themselves.
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