Wosbald wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 22:24
+JMJ+
I'm interpreting this as "good point, I see what your saying."
To some degree perhaps.
But maybe not exactly.
We don't have the option of violating Universal Human Rights (e.g. the Right to Migrate), regardless of how "unhealthy" we may be. There are certain minimum requirements that we must meet, regardless of how "unwell" we are.
But once we meet those bare minimum standards, then you are right: we might not be doing ourselves (or anyone else for that matter) any favors by giving away the farm.
You are starting to talk some sense. No "Universal Right" is one-sided. They always come with a "Universal Duty" and respect for the "Universal Rights" of others.
You have made it sound like you believe that any person has a "Universal Right to Migrate" at will. You sounded like you believe that if a homeless migrant desires to migrate into your home and do drugs in your living room, no one can deny him.
This is why we push back at your posts. Your one-sided moral view appeared to be insane.
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Yes.... Peaceful People have the "right to migrate." (just saying the obvious -- criminals have abdicated their right to move about freely. don't be too universal with your Universals.)
This means that it is unjust to prevent people from leaving their unpleasant environment, such as North Korea does.
However, this does not mean that every safe and prosperous country must allow limitless hordes of unknown migrants to enter at will. Every nation has Universal Duty to secure the safety and prosperity of its citizens. This means that we must have an orderly immigration policy and a well-secured border.
The border crisis poses two vital problems that demand immediate fixing:
1) The epidemic of overdose deaths from drug trafficking across the open border: 300 deaths per day; 200 by fentanyl specifically (CDC numbers, 2022).
2) 8,500 unknown persons per day crossing illegally: Overwhelming our ability to place and care for those who are here to live and work peacefully. Plus a significant fraction who intend to expand criminal gang activity, terrorism, espionage, and child sex trafficking.
It's too late now for something like Trump's generous policy of "A Big, Beautiful Wall with a Big, Wide Door."
Our moral need is clear, if we have the will to moral leadership:
- We need to close the border entirely and turn everyone away until security and orderly procedures for entry are re-established. This will do much to stop the drug and sex trafficking.
- We need to process and assimilate those who are here as swiftly as we can (those 80,000 IRS agents should be re-purposed toward immigration work).
- We will need some sort of provisional amnesty and immediate work permits, so the illegals can provide for themselves as they desire.
- Those immigrants who are not disposed to settling down and living as peaceful Americans must be immediately deported.
This might take a couple of years, if we work diligently.
After that, we can we re-open a door for legal and orderly immigration, generously inviting migrants limited to numbers that we can handle -- with a priority on reuniting families.
This is our moral duty now. But our nation's leaders have no moral sense. Too many Americans have lost our moral sense.
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Migrants want to come to America because we are the best country in the world. Our duty is to sustain this standard as best we can, and to welcome as many migrants as we can assimilate effectively.
And we certainly need immigrants. As a symptom of our loss of moral sense, Americans have stopped having enough kids to sustain our own culture.